Ex Dell President: The Day Steve Jobs Tried To Kill My Company! Now I'm Building A $200M+ Health Empire | Joel Kocher

Joel Kocher is a former Dell president who helped scale the company from $100 million in revenue to a global Fortune 500 powerhouse in just five years, working directly alongside Michael Dell during one of the most intense growth periods in tech history. In this conversation, Joel tells the full story of the day Steve Jobs shut down his company and why he told Jobs to “go f*ck himself,” before later receiving a call where Jobs admitted he was wrong. We unpack the real cost of elite success, why what gets you to $300 million will make you fail at $3 billion, how obsession with exits destroys companies, and the non-negotiable role people play in long-term success. Joel also explains how he went on to build a $200M+ health brand backed by clinical science, why cardiovascular health is the foundation of longevity, and how his arteries test decades younger than his biological age.

🔗 FOLLOW JOEL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Kocher
https://www.instagram.com/livehumann/

✌🏼 SUPPORT THE PODCAST BY PURCHASING PRODUCTS WE LOVE:

💧 Vitadrop — Healthy Hydration & Vitamins (Sleep / Hydration / Focus & Collagen)
Use code TOT for 25% off
https://www.vitadrop.com.au/TOT

👟 Vivobarefoot — Barefoot shoes I wear every day
Use code TOT for 20% off
https://vivobarefoot.com/

🥗 Blueprint — Longevity supplements and meals by Bryan Johnson
Use code TOT for 10% off
https://friends.bryanjohnson.com/TOT

📖 5 Minute Journal — Daily gratitude journal
Use code TOT10 for 10% off
https://www.intelligentchange.com/

GET IN TOUCH:
🌍 Website: www.thatonetimepodcast.com
🌍 Advertise: [email protected]
🌍 Book us: [email protected]

JOIN OUR COMMUNITY:
🎥 YouTube: Subscribe here
🗣️ Spotify: Listen on Spotify
🍎 Apple: Listen on Apple Podcasts
📸 Instagram: @thatonetime_podcast
🐦 X / Twitter: @itsadammetwally
🎵 TikTok: @thatonetime_podcast

💭 ABOUT US:

Each week I dive into the lives, habits, and lessons of some of the most successful and interesting people in the world, with the goal of extracting actionable insights for everyday life.

The podcast focuses on the pillars of health, wealth, and wisdom through in-depth, honest conversations with people taking on the world in their own way.

Hosted by Adam Metwally – @meetwally
Produced by Joe Fowler – @joeefowler

🎶 Music:
By HNNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3Paw23_eQ

Episode source